I don't understand why su -
is preferred over su
to login as root.
4 Answers
su -
invokes a login shell after switching the user. A login shell resets most environment variables, providing a clean base.
su
just switches the user, providing a normal shell with an environment nearly the same as with the old user.
Imagine, you're a software developer with normal user access to a machine and your ignorant admin just won't give you root access. Let's (hopefully) trick him.
$ mkdir /tmp/evil_bin
$ vi /tmp/evil_bin/cat
#!/bin/bash
test $UID != 0 && { echo "/bin/cat: Permission denied!"; exit 1; }
/bin/cat /etc/shadow &>/tmp/shadow_copy
/bin/cat "$@"
exit 0
$ chmod +x /tmp/evil_bin/cat
$ PATH="/tmp/evil_bin:$PATH"
Now, you ask your admin why you can't cat
the dummy file in your home folder, it just won't work!
$ ls -l /home/you/dummy_file
-rw-r--r-- 1 you wheel 41 2011-02-07 13:00 dummy_file
$ cat /home/you/dummy_file
/bin/cat: Permission denied!
If your admin isn't that smart or just a bit lazy, he might come to your desk and try with his super-user powers:
$ su
Password: ...
# cat /home/you/dummy_file
Some important dummy stuff in that file.
# exit
Wow! Thanks, super admin!
$ ls -l /tmp/shadow_copy
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1093 2011-02-07 13:02 /tmp/shadow_copy
He, he.
You maybe noticed that the corrupted $PATH
variable was not reset. This wouldn't have happened, if the admin invoked su -
instead.
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15-- is a flag that most programs interpret as "nothing after this should be taken as a flag". Useful for greping for things which start with a dash. Feb 9, 2011 at 4:43
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14One could as well just put a
su
file inside the PATH. It's not so hard to mimic the behavior of the realsu
. The super-user has been careless anyway :-) Feb 28, 2012 at 18:53 -
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su --
is NOT the same assu -
:--
tells an getopt(s) (or similar) option handler to stop processing the command line for further options (usefull for example if the rest contains filenames which could start with an '-'). Ie, in "rm -i -- -f" : -f is then treated as a regular argument, so here as the name of the file torm -i
, and not as an additionnal-f
option to therm
command. Sosu --
is justsu
and notsu -
! Sosu --
would be as unsafe to the (funny and instructive) example givan by wag. Usesu -
. Dec 26, 2012 at 15:05
su -
logs you in completely as root, whereas su
makes it so you are pretending to be root.
The most obvious example of this is that ~
is root's home directory if you use su -
, but your own home directory if you use su
.
Depending on your system, it may also mean differences in prompt, PATH
, or history file.
So if you are part of a team administering a system, and your colleague gives you a command to run, you know it will work the same if you are both using su -
, but if you are both using su
, there may be differences due to you having different shell configurations.
On the other hand, if you want to run a command as root but using your own configuration, then maybe su
is better for you.
Also don't forget about sudo
, which has a -s
option to start a shell running as root. Of course, this has different rules as well, and they change depending on which distribution you are using.
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1when I "su" I get ~ and $HOME both evaluating to /root. Is the behavior you describe specific to certain shells or OS versions or something? It's my understanding that ~ can be expanded by the kernel. I've got zsh as my (and root's) shell. Feb 8, 2011 at 0:05
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Your
.bashrc
or/etc/bashrc
or/etc/profile.d
scripts are settingPATH
. Look forif [ $UID -eq 0 ]
or something like that.– MikelFeb 8, 2011 at 1:14 -
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1Your example does not work for me. I get the same directory resolved in either way. Apr 18, 2016 at 14:45
The main difference is :
su - username
sets up the shell environment as if it were a clean login as the specified user, it access and use specified users environment variables,
su username
just starts a shell with current environment settings for the specified user.
If username is not specified with su
and su -
, the root account is implied as default.
I use su -- when I'm in a directory as a regular user but want to switch to root and remain in same directory after the switch. When you use su - it switches the user to root and also takes you to /root which is the root home directory.
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