How can terminal emulator read from ptm device while it missing read function? There is a PTY driver: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/tty/pty.c. I see pty_write function, but can't see something like pty_read() function. As I understand, there's no need of read function for pty slave because it is a TTY device which has its own read buffer. So the corresponding method for reading in tty line discipline: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/tty/n_tty.c#L2132.

But what about a master device? How can terminal emulator read from this device while it is not even a generic tty device?


A read from a master pty will be dispatched to the same n_tty_read(), ie the same N_TTY line discipline is attached to the master as to the slave pty.

The whole trace of a read syscall is something like:

sys_read() -> ksys_read() -> vfs_read() -> __vfs_read()
  -> file->f_op->read = tty_fops.read -> tty_read()
    -> ld->ops->read = n_tty_ops.read -> n_tty_read()

and the line discipline is attached to a master pty via

  -> tty_init_dev()
     -> alloc_tty_struct()
        -> tty_ldisc_init()
           -> tty_ldisc_get(tty, N_TTY)

The situation may be confused by the fact that

a) the termios config used by a master pty is set to raw/passthrough, so it may appear like the line discipline is not even there ;-) (see the ptm_driver->init_termios... initializations in unix98_pty_init()).

b) all the termios ioctl (tcsetattr() -> ioctl(TCSETS), etc) will act on the slave's termios config even when called on the master pty (see tty_mode_ioctl() in drivers/tty/tty_ioctl.c).

  • If master pty do has associated ldisc, then can we set its termios from userspace? If no, then it would be completely the same as "it doesn't even exist". – 炸鱼薯条德里克 Jul 13 '19 at 2:17
  • Have you read the point b) of my answer? All the termios ioctls on a master pty fd will operate on the slave. – mosvy Jul 13 '19 at 2:19
  • Yes, I am just asking if there's another possibility to set that from userland. Seems that it's a on-purpose design of linux kernel. – 炸鱼薯条德里克 Jul 13 '19 at 2:23
  • No, there isn't. All the line discipline / termios ioctls act on the slave, even when called on the master. – mosvy Jul 13 '19 at 2:35
  • Thanks for answer, @mosvy. But I can't see how ldics is attached to the slave device. Where can I find corresponding code? – TwITe Jul 13 '19 at 9:22

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