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I've seen interesting video about POSIX standard on youtube.

It was part of lecture, asking if anyone knows the result of

echo \\\\\\

in bash, and sh(POSIX standard?)

sh-3.2$ echo \\\\\\

\\

bash$ echo \\\\\\

\\\

I wanted to find the video again, but I just couldn't.

I just can't figure it out how this happened.

  • Your two examples are both running in Bash, I think - is that what was in the video, or what you've observed yourself? If so, where and how? – Michael Homer Mar 15 at 2:52
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This gets a bit complicated. There are actually three different cases: two POSIX variants, and what Bash does.

First, the shell handles what you wrote. The POSIX shell language, along with Bash, supports backslash quoting, which

preserves the literal value of the following character

So \\ represents a single \ in the argument given to the command.

Your example, echo \\\\\\, has three pairs of backslashes. The shell interprets those escapes and gives three backslashes, \\\, as the argument to echo (equivalent to echo '\\\').

In all cases, the echo command gets the same argument, but they interpret it differently.


POSIX

There is an optional POSIX extension (XSI, or X/Open System Interfaces), which is very commonly supported today. It's possible to be POSIX-conformant without supporting XSI, and it makes a difference in this situation.

With XSI, echo requires that the backslash escapes are interpreted within arguments, including

\\
    Write a <backslash> character.

Without XSI, POSIX instead states that

If the first operand is -n, or if any of the operands contain a <backslash> character, the results are implementation-defined.

and so no particular outcome is specified (or, both versions you saw are allowed).

POSIX/XSI echo will interpret the first pair of backslashes as an escape itself, resulting in \\ as the output.


Bash

Bash's builtin echo, on the other hand, does not interpret escape sequences unless you provide the -e option to ask for it explicitly.

In Bash's POSIX mode, which is enabled in various circumstances (including when it is invoked as sh), it still does the same thing (which is allowed as "implementation-defined" behaviour). If you enable the xpg_echo option using shopt -s xpg_echo, or your bash executable was built with the --enable-xpg-echo-default configuration option, you will get the POSIX/XSI behaviour.

GNU coreutils echo does the same thing.


That means that:

  1. Under Bash, only the shell-level interpretation happens, and you get three backslashes outputted.
  2. Under a POSIX/XSI environment, the backslashes are interpreted twice, and you get two backslashes outputted.
  3. Under a pure POSIX environment, the implementation gets to choose a behaviour. Either version of the output you saw is allowed.
  4. You can configure Bash to have the XSI behaviour of interpreting escapes automatically with shopt -s xpg_echo, but it won't ever be enabled without explicitly asking for it.
  • oh god.. I wrote the question few hours ago. And I receive the question like this. Just brilliant. I'm really shocked. where did you come from?.. thank you very much. – rok x Mar 15 at 5:03
  • For an even longer exposition of the problems with echo, see the answers at unix.stackexchange.com/q/65803/5132 . (-: – JdeBP Mar 15 at 7:08

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