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Background

I'm copying some data CDs/DVDs to ISO files to use them later without the need of them in the drive.

I'm looking on the Net for procedures and I found a lot:

I don't know if all of them should be equivalent, although I tested some of them (using the md5sum tool) and, at least, dd and pv are not equivalent. Here's the md5sum of both the drive and generated files using each procedure:

md5 of dd procedure: 71b676875b0194495060b38f35237c3c

md5 of pv procedure: f3524d81fdeeef962b01e1d86e6acc04

EDIT: That output was from another CD than the output given. In fact, I realized there are some interesting facts I provide as an answer.

In fact, the size of each file is different comparing to each other.

So, is there a best procedure to copy a CD/DVD or am I just using the commands incorrectly?


More information about the situation

Here is more information about the test case I'm using to check the procedures I've found so far:

isoinfo -d i /dev/sr0 Output: https://gist.github.com/JBFWP286/7f50f069dc5d1593ba62#file-isoinfo-output-19-aug-2015

dd to copy the media, with output checksums and file information Output: https://gist.github.com/JBFWP286/75decda0a67605590d32#file-dd-output-with-md5-and-sha256-19-aug-2015

pv to copy the media, with output checksums and file information Output: https://gist.github.com/JBFWP286/700a13fe0a2f06ce5e7a#file-pv-output-with-md5-and-sha256-19-aug-2015

Any help will be appreciated!

  • are the file sizes identical? result of cmp file1 file2? did you use dd with the wrong count= (or really any count at all which is not necessary if you want the whole thing?). Read errors in dmesg? – frostschutz Aug 19 '15 at 19:30
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    It goes without saying that files of different sizes are (with 99.9999999999+% probability) are going to have different checksums.  As long as you've done the tests, it would be nice if you would post all the results, to include (1) the exact dd command that you used (what blocksize? what count?), (2) the sizes and checksums of all outputs, and (3) any independent information you have regarding the amount of data on the source optical disc.  … … … … … …  P.S. Why are you using count= on dd?  You want to copy the entire disk image, don't you?  count= says "copy this many and then stop". – Scott Aug 19 '15 at 19:32
  • @Scott In this page linuxjournal.com/content/archiving-cds-iso-commandline the author says one should use isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom to know the count number and use it -- in fact, he says one shouldn't use just dd. "In any case, if you want a proper ISO image of that CD you need to get the blocksize and blockcount correct before you create your image." – user129371 Aug 19 '15 at 20:06
  • @frostschutz In the first case the sizes weren't identical, but surprisingly, I tried again and got different results. See the answer I provided for more details. – user129371 Aug 19 '15 at 21:13
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All of the following commands are equivalent. They read the bytes of the CD /dev/sr0 and write them to a file called image.iso.

cat /dev/sr0 >image.iso
cat </dev/sr0 >image.iso
tee </dev/sr0 >image.iso
dd </dev/sr0 >image.iso
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
pv </dev/sr0 >image.iso
cp /dev/sr0 image.iso
tail -c +1 /dev/sr0 >image.iso

Why would you use one over the other?

  • Simplicity. For example, if you already know cat or cp, you don't need to learn yet another command.

  • Robustness. This one is a bit of a variant of simplicity. How much risk is there that changing the command is going to change what it does? Let's see a few examples:

    • Anything with redirection: you might accidentally put a redirection the wrong way round, or forget it. Since the destination is supposed to be a non-existing file, set -o noclobber should ensure that you don't overwrite anything; however you might overwrite a device if you accidentally write >/dev/sda (for a CD, which is read-only, there's no risk, of course). This speaks in favor of cat /dev/sr0 >image.iso (hard to get wrong in a damaging way) over alternatives such as tee </dev/sr0 >image.iso (if you invert the redirections or forget the input one, tee will write to /dev/sr0).
    • cat: you might accidentally concatenate two files. That leaves the data easily salvageable.
    • dd: i and o are close on the keyboard, and somewhat unusual. There's no equivalent of noclobber, of= will happily overwrite anything. The redirection syntax is less error-prone.
    • cp: if you accidentally swap the source and the target, the device will be overwritten (again, assuming a non read-only device). If cp is invoked with some options such as -R or -a which some people add via an alias, it will copy the device node rather than the device content.
  • Additional functionality. The one tool here that has useful additional functionality is pv, with its powerful reporting options.
    But here you can check how much has been copied by looking at the size of the output file anyway.

  • Performance. This is an I/O-bound process; the main influence in performance is the buffer size: the tool reads a chunk from the source, writes the chunk to the destination, repeats. If the chunk is too small, the computer spends its time switching between tasks. If the chunk is too large, the read and write operations can't be parallelized. The optimal chunk size on a PC is typically around a few megabytes but this is obviously very dependent on the OS, on the hardware, and on what else the computer is doing. I made benchmarks for hard disk to hard disk copies a while ago, on Linux, which showed that for copies within the same disk, dd with a large buffer size has the advantage, but for cross-disk copies, cat won over any dd buffer size.

There are a few reasons why you find dd mentioned so often. Apart from performance, they aren't particularly good reasons.

  • In very old Unix systems, some text processing tools couldn't cope with binary data (they used null-terminated strings internally, so they tended to have problems with null bytes; some tools also assumed that characters used only 7 bits and didn't process 8-bit character sets properly). I'm not sure if this ever was a problem with cat (it was with more line-oriented tools such as head, sed, etc.), but people tended to avoid it on binary data because of its association with text processing. This is not a problem on modern systems such as Linux, OSX, *BSD, or anything that's POSIX-compliant.
  • There's a sort of myth that dd is somewhat “lower level” than other tools such as cat and accesses devices directly. This is completely false: dd and cat and tee and the others all read bytes from their input and write the bytes to their output. The real magic is in /dev/sr0.
  • dd has an unusual command line syntax, so explaining how it works gives more of an opportunity to shine by explaining something that just writing cat /dev/sr0.
  • Using dd with a large buffer size can have better performance, but it is not always the case (see some benchmarks on Linux).

A major risk with dd is that it can silently skip some data. I think dd is safe as long as skip or count are not passed but I'm not sure whether this is the case on all platforms. But it has no advantage except for performance.

So just use pv if you want its fancy progress report, or cat if you don't.

  • Thanks so much for your time writting this response! =) Now I understand the differences between them. Just a question: Is pv < /dev/sr0 > image.iso the same as pv /dev/sr0 > image.iso (the latter is found in the manual pages of pv)? – user129371 Aug 19 '15 at 22:42
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    @JBFWP286 They copy the same thing, but pv /dev/sr0 … can include the file name in progress reports whereas pv </dev/sr0 can't. – Gilles Aug 19 '15 at 22:53
  • Another note: cp might be aliased to cp -R, which (at least on GNU cp, as root) causes cp to copy the device node rather than its contents. – marcelm Aug 20 '15 at 11:23
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    @JBFWP286 A device node is a file through which you access hardware or other special features provided by kernel drivers. Almost all files in /dev are device nodes. For example cp -R /dev/sr0 image.iso would make image.iso a file through which the CD drive is accessed, just like /dev/sr0, instead of a regular file containing copy of the content of the CD which you get with cp /dev/sr0 image.iso. – Gilles Aug 21 '15 at 7:20
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    @Hashim I don't conclude that it has better performance. I mention that it has better performance sometimes. I've linked to a benchmark I made — in the best case dd beat cat but only by a slight margin. – Gilles Oct 19 '17 at 8:53
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There are interesting facts in this case, specially these ones:

  • I've just checked the output I got and provided (I used another disc this time, exactly, the Xubuntu 15.04 x64 setup disc), and with both procedures (dd and pv) the checksums are identical.
  • I had the idea to, after doing the dd procedure, open the drive and close it with the same disc, and then finish the test with the pv procedure. Doing just that, I got identical copies with both procedures.
  • I think I got different checksums the first time, because for some reason, the data collected from the CD/DVD drive seems to be "recorded" to other purposes for some time (like a cache) -- thus, other operations like checksums were made a lot faster than the transfer. Please comment if you know the exact cause for this.
  • Another fact is that dd w/o the count=X parameter stops correctly at the end of the disc and gives the same disc-image as with pv (checksums are identical), so it's better for me to use dd w/o parameters or just pv.

So, for now, it seems pv and dd can accomplish a CD/DVD copy with same results.

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