I have one Debian Sid system that uses logind for its user sessions. It is odd that that system is not even running systemd. The logind sessions are independent of X and are in effect for the tty sessions before X is even started. However, I do not know how this occurred and even the distro's lead developer cannot explain it.

However, my main system is another Debian Sid distro (Siduction Linux) that is running systemd 204-7. logind is running and active, but it is not managing the user sessions. My question is, how would I go about switching session control from console-kit to logind?

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    See this Arch Wiki entry and remove any CK stuff from your startup files...
    – jasonwryan
    Mar 6, 2014 at 18:04
  • I have looked at that several times. It doesn't tell me what to do to get it to work, just how to see if it is working. And ck doesn't start until X starts; if loginctl is working, it should already be active before X starts.
    – Tim
    Mar 6, 2014 at 20:53
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    It does tell you how to get it to work: you just need to follow the links. It also assumes that systemd-logind.service is running.
    – jasonwryan
    Mar 6, 2014 at 21:00
  • Ok, thank you jasonwryan. I guess I am too dumb to understand it. And, as I said, the systemd-logind service IS running: "systemd-logind.service loaded active running Login Service"
    – Tim
    Mar 7, 2014 at 2:03

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Ok, I discovered a solution. I'm not sure how correct it is, but it is working, although with a few glitches.

The main solution was to add line

-session optional pam_systemd.so

to file /etc/pam.d/login and

session optional pam_systemd.so

to file /etc/pam.d/common-session. This requires package libpam-systemd.

This worked for sessions in a tty console, but still had no effect on gui sessions. In order to have it effective for gui sessions, I worked around that by bypassing slim, logging in at the console, and running startx.

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